Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Gaudet
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete as he fails WP:ATHLETE. Internal links can (and will) be deleted. пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:ATHLETE as has never played in a fully pro league. bneidror (talk) 17:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The article is a little ambiguous; Toronto FC is a fully professional soccer club, but if he signed a "developmental contract," he is not likely to receive playing time except in the reserve division although he is listed on the roster (albeit without a number or biography yet). (According to the club site, he has not had any caps yet, and he has had only one cap for the Canada U-20 men's national soccer team.) I'm not sure if that really qualifies under WP:ATHLETE. I think article will meet notability guidelines once he actually plays a game with Toronto FC, but as of now, the article does not meet WP:ATHLETE. --Wikieditor06 (talk) 18:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. —Cliff smith talk 18:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:11, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, player fails notability at WP:ATHLETE, recreated if and when he makes him professional or full international debut. Youth caps do not confer notability. --Jimbo[online] 12:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I follow TFC pretty closely, attending most home games. And I've never heard of him. No where near the first team. And he's a forward, TFC were completely desparate for forwards until a week or so ago - if this player was notable he would have surely sat on the bench (which was reduced to only 5 players for games since Gaudet joined because of a lack of quality players). Nfitz (talk) 04:18, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Do not delete As a player on Toronto FC and in the talent pool for Canada's youth teams, this player will inevitably be referenced in internal links that, if the article is deleted, will lead nowhere. As an active member of the Wikipedia Football Project, I would like to see this article maintained and will take a role in keeping it up to date as Gaudet gains more notability (a question of when, not if). Themodelcitizen (talk) 19:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. How do we know he'll become notable? This is WP:CRYSTAL. I don't want to sound macabre, but what if he suffered a career-ending injury tomorrow before he makes his professional debut? He wouldn't be notable then. This article should be deleted, then recreated IF he meets the appropriate Wiki guidelines. Bettia (rawr CRUSH!) 13:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's true, assuming that every single person in the world could suddenly die tomorrow does not violate any Wikipedia policy, and in fact one can make the argument, as you have, that one is just enforcing WP:CRYSTAL - but it doesn't seem to me to be a very useful stance. I don't really think the possibility that Wikipedia will suddenly be overrun by articles about shockingly non-notable footballers (like a guy who is in the squad of an MLS team but.... but....... but.......... he hasn't made an appearance in a first team competition! oh, the prospect of this guy having an article pains my heart considerably) really warrants this scorched earth policy. I'm sure hundreds of hours that could be spent otherwise (you know, actually improving articles... sleeping... sitting around in coffee shops debating politics) have been wasted deleting articles like this one that just barely violate a guideline :-) ugen64 (talk) 02:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. How do we know he'll become notable? This is WP:CRYSTAL. I don't want to sound macabre, but what if he suffered a career-ending injury tomorrow before he makes his professional debut? He wouldn't be notable then. This article should be deleted, then recreated IF he meets the appropriate Wiki guidelines. Bettia (rawr CRUSH!) 13:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Per nom. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 03:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.